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OCA ED retires.

Doug Bakes, executive director of the OCA had submitted his retirement notice.
Effective end of June 2014 but staying on as a consultant for 6 months.

www.ontcurl.com/news-details.aspx?id=247

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I hope this doesn't mean said person is double dipping like the Ontario Power Generation executives.

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"retired"? good one! From what I've heard he was shown the door....pushed towards it....and had his toque and mittens put on for him. OCA didn't have the "stones" to call it a termination.

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I heard about this rumour over the summer. He could be a rathe elusive fellow at times. One of the OCA's main sponsors once told me Doug never returned his phone calls so the sponsor ended up going to the OCA offices and waiting for him.

Ontario need to get some development plans going - entries are dropping in almost all of their competitions and I am sure membership is down too. Maybe Lolar will take the job.

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I heard about this rumour over the summer. He could be a rathe elusive fellow at times. One of the OCA's main sponsors once told me Doug never returned his phone calls so the sponsor ended up going to the OCA offices and waiting for him.

Ontario need to get some development plans going - entries are dropping in almost all of their competitions and I am sure membership is down too. Maybe Lolar will take the job.



Lolar would have my vote. The OCA could use some new life.

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I heard about this rumour over the summer. He could be a rathe elusive fellow at times. One of the OCA's main sponsors once told me Doug never returned his phone calls so the sponsor ended up going to the OCA offices and waiting for him.

Ontario need to get some development plans going - entries are dropping in almost all of their competitions and I am sure membership is down too. Maybe Lolar will take the job.




Agreed. The position of Director of Development is a joke, as is the fact it's "assigned" to the 2nd VP. When was the last time we saw anything remotely developmental come out of that office, let alone from the Board. Let's hope the hiring process for the new ED is open and above board, and the hiring committee charged with that task is competent. Ontario needs to regain its former status.

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The board elections are not even transparent so don't expect the hiring of the new staff to be. Ever notice the recycling of board members. They get to past president, take a year off and return with a new title. Watch for names like Gord Gark to pop up. Makes you very suspicious when the same people are on the Ontario Curling Council b of d and the OCA board.

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The OCA needs a good Public Relations / Marketing person.

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pretty sure Gord's name will pop up...as he is second vice president.

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He was shown the door now its time to get someone in there
that can answer a phone call and make a difference he won't
be missed I hear.

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I agree with all the above....OCA needs new blood and true promotion.....

I'd love to see the younger generation take over! What it doesn't need is old guys like me (going on 69)!

It will take youth and energy as well as ideas to get OCA back to something worth while.

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kind of curious? who showed him the Door?

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While he may have his detractors, I personally had a very good relationship with Doug and he was very good at many components of his job. He was a quiet leader, someone who didn't seek out the limelight and did a lot of work behind the scenes that we rarely saw.

Managing an organization the size of the OCA is not an easy feat, with 16 Zones meetings twice a year (and Doug was great at collaborating at those, I attended several), and the management of all the provincial championships that go along with the province. For anyone who's suggested the scoring we do is in-spite of the OCA, they've been very helpful to help facilitate getting it accomplished.

Doug will be missed for the hard work he put into the job, though am looking forward to a positive change going forward that brings together all the important stakeholders of the sport in Ontario.

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I agree Gerry. It's easy to snipe but Ontario has way to many competitions now and finding ice and support is not easy. Doug kept an even keel quietly - be careful what you wish for - the next guy could be a different story. I always found Doug a pleasant easy guy to talk to and I wish him well in retirement.

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I'm sure the CCA sanction of the OCA had something to do with it.

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Doug did a great job taking the OCA from a good old boys club to a major force in curling. There were not enough hours in the day for Doug to respond to every e-mail, phone call etc. that he received, I have had questions answered at 1am. The hours Doug put in during the season would make most peoples heads spin. The best part is most of the people commenting here are basing their responses on rumour and innuendo, not facts, which is sad, and hide behind unregistered.

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I'm sure the CCA sanction of the OCA had something to do with it.


Please elaborate. On a personal level, I had no problems with Doug. I think the biggest problem he had was not delegating some of his tasks to other employees at the OCA - if you try & do everything yourself, things fall through the cracks.

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Perhaps the OCA should take this opportunity to more forward, and enhance what they have been doing. Now this is no indictment of Doug, but perhaps some goals for the new ED should be:

- continue to foster relations with sponsors
- I know what you said about the OCT, Gerry, but I think the OCT and OJCT should work more closely with the OCA and try to benefit the tour and OCA events. Let's work together.
- work more closely with local associations like the TCA and OVCA
- foster better relations with the clubs, such as highlighting good practices (like beginner leagues) and lessons learned
- work more closely with the provincial associations, in particular the Quebec and NO associations. I am sure there could be some "joint ventures" that might be mutually beneficial
- try to develop more curling in high schools. And not just the Gore and some leagues, I think curling has to develop intramural curling at the HS level. I believe that is key to the survival of the game. SK and MB seem to be doing that to some extent. Elaboration on this would require a new thread
- develop a marketing strategy to try to sell the game to new Canadians. It is still seen as a WASPy game, but in the major cities, that is not the growth demographic.

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